Unite to De-Recognise the GMB Union

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The bloated Unite bureaucracy is attempting to de-recognise the GMB union for its own employees. The GMB have complained and dearunite.com have obtained all the correspondence.  So Unite thinks unions are good for employees except when they are their own employees.  You couldn't make this stuff up.

Actually what McCluskey is up to is slightly cuter than simple de-recognition. Unite's proposal begins with:
"The General Secretary has previously indicated that the Union will provide facilities for one Staff Committee to represent all employees designated as Staff" 
It continues:
"All Staff employees will receive a communication from the Union outlining the above and asking them to indicate in a ballot whether:
a. They wish to be represented by an in house Unite Staff Committee or
b. Whether they wish to be represented by an independent Trade Union
c. If they indicate that they wish to be represented by an independent Trade Union they will also be asked:  “Which Union would you wish to represent you?”
The sting in the tail is a small note at the bottom of the Unite proposal:
"Whatever the outcome of this process employees are at liberty to belong to a Trade Union of their choice; however bargaining rights will only apply to the newly formed Unite National Staff Committee" [our emphasis]
So our union is giving its staff a ‘choice’, in a ballot set up and run by itself as an employer, but has decided that whatever they choose, bargaining rights will only apply to an in-house "Staff Committee". Not actually de-recognition of the GMB then - just unilateral withdrawal of bargaining rights! 


You might think our union can be trusted to deal fairly with its own employees.  Not if you know any history of the various Employment Tribunals it has lost against them you won't:
U is for Vendetta
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117 comments:

  1. Yet when the GMB openly and and consistently poach Unite members accross the country its ok then is it?
    Believe me, I am all for the right of Unite employees to collectively bargain with their employer but remember Unite is not a Capitalist company and the issue is as I understand being put to ballot with the principle of collective bargaining being paramount.
    Anyway since when has Dear Unite been interested in what goes on amongst 'unelected bureaucrats'? They dont need collective bargaining, just re-election, the members will look after their interests wont they?

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  2. Someone really needs to look at history and wake up. I was a member of the AEEU, and the EETPU prior where as an active shop steward I was openly encouraged to poach members by full time executive councillors, who were scared of losing their priviledged positions. The EETPU was expelled from the TUC for breeching the Bridlington agreement, so the GMB has nothing on us.

    The rest of these comments are ridiculous and childish. "Unite is not a capitalist company" what on earth is this supposed to mean? You may as well say Unite is not a bowl of chicken soup!!!! so what.

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  3. Even if the GMB did poach members, trying to remove the right to collectively bargain for its own members is a disgrace and it could well back fire and encourage others to join, if it hasn't already.

    If any employer tries to remove the right to collectively bargain you must look at what agenda lies underneath the proposal, it is usually to pave the way to impose without the right to question or take any industrial response.

    It is more that a coincidence that McCluskey is trying to vary terms and conditions of former Amicus officers and a ballot is approaching, (but looks as though it will be rejected), so having an ineffectual officers committee when an impass arises would suit him rather than having an organised trade union who could ballot for industrial action or take multi breach of contract claims.

    “Unite is not a capitalist company” what a nonsense argument! I wonder what our members in the not for profit/public sector would think of this, would we expect them to be treated the same?

    The election of officers argument will rumble on until members/reps through their democratic structures and conferences change the rule, but as of today the situation is what it is.

    However, it is fair to say that officers work in a job that is seen as vocational, but the more you treat officers as employees the more they will act like them, even worse is treating them in a “parent and child” relationship with constant monitoring and discipline.

    I don't think I have read any supporting statements for more unelected bureaucrats by the author of DearUnite, but I do think that he and its site readers can recognise when something is worth questioning.

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  4. “Unite is not a capitalist company” is a silly statement.

    Anyone who isn't employed by Unite should let the staff get on with it until and unless they are asked for support.



    Just to clarify, the TGWU always bargained through what was called the Staff Committee but this was just the name of the negotiating committee, not a description of the recognition process. They had representation from regional and national officials and there is nothing in Ray's letter to suggest that union recognition is being withdrawn from anyone, simply that there is a wish to move to a single bargaining group - which presumably may or may not include more than one trade union and I'm sure will include the right to be represented by officials should that be requested.



    But to repeat, let the staff get on with it; if they need any outside help they will ask for it.

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  5. The solution is simple: Unite, as an employer, says to the 3 existing representative bodies: "you are now a JNC, sort this out between yourselves so we can have one set of negotaiations."

    Simples.

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  6. What if the three representative bodies turn around and say "NO" we stay as we are ?

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  7. Well not to worry if the bargaining groups can't get together as one as McCluskey said he didn't want a T&G mark 2 anyway... (Wake up! That's because he wants Unite to be a T&G mark 1)

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  8. The thing is, it's not even McCluskey. If anyone thinks Woodley's appointment as head of organising was anything other than a way of keeping him in charge they are very short-sighted.

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  9. AS a officer working for UNITE I am a member off the GMB and unite i find the current leadership I disgrace and in many ways of a similar elk to Ken Jackson at his worst . Tony your all lazy bastards Woodley is held by most officers as a complete Joke Lenny is not more than his puppet .

    The need to increase membership is critical to the union .In the region that I wok in last year between 10 organisers the achieved to increase the membership by less than 1500 new members the wages must be 400k the revenue from 1500 new members is 160 k this model is costing the union fortune . I have not gripe with organising unit so very capable people work there but at some point the executive must ask Woodley why this is not working

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    1. maybe if unite worked for its members they would not be able to be poached

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  10. This Union does like every other Union need to increase membership to enable us to win industrially. My question to the anoynymous Unite officer would be to ask how many members he or she recruited and / or organised in any given year??? I am guessing it's not many if any...but I stand corrected if proved wrong.

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  11. your are wrong over 200 with help from the reps

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  12. Anon 3.38. That's not quite correct, although 100 % membership helps. Look at the rail industry, anyone involved in it will know that union membership is low, but if you refuse to drive a train, operate a control centre or maintain the damper you can bring the system to a stop, in other words its the ability to mobilise what membership you have. But its no good criticising officers about numbers as the best recruiters are the reps. Woodley by moaning about the levels of recruitment and attacking officers is indirectly questioning the reps ability to organise their own workplaces, but he will not come out directly and say it.

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  13. Anon 6.13 You are sadly mistaken if you think that 100% membership only (helps)I believe it more than helps and you have far more chance of winning something if you have strength in numbers. The majority of industry is weak whan it comes to taking industial action, please note the words "majority" and take note of history and modern times as we know it. You refer to the best recruiters as being the reps, well lets examine your argument - why are we in such decline given that many places of work have reps ? The answer lies within the first part of my statement - weak so called organised workplaces with low density struggle to win anything as they have no industrial muscle and they are therefor not organised. The officers are key players in building the Union, any Union and every Union in my view. The officers are there to advise and guide reps on how to become better organised and more effective and it is in their own interest to ensure workplaces are organised to lessen their own workloads as the reps will be able to deal with things much more effectivley. Like in any job there are good officers and no doubt bad officers, and I am not being over critical here I hope, but a lack of control and knowledge over allocations appears to be evident and until this is nailed down this Union will continue to decline. I do not support anyone attacking fellow officers or colleagues and people should be managed with dignity and respect and be allowed to get on with the job, after all it is all our interests to work as a team and become much more effective, but people need manageing and some need manageing more than others. I would agree the choice of words and delivery could be improved upon by some senior people within the Union and I hope that this change takes place sooner rather than later. What is very clear is that we are not as good as we should be, and we do need to improve so let's start pulling in the same direction and get on with the job in hand. To ensure we are the biggest and strongest Union in this country that can deliver real improvments for our members. Is that not what we all want ?

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  14. Anon 12.28 These comments are going “off” post, the original post was reference to McCluskey de- recognising the GMB, lets not forget that. Of course it helps to have 100% membership, but the point about mobilisation is key as you can win by taking strategic action with certain groups of members with less than 100% membership but 100% should always be the aim.

    Firstly you are correct “organised workplaces with low density struggle” but it is the reps in the first instance that can change this through recruiting and organising within their own workplaces. That's why the buy in training is aimed at them.

    You are also correct that officers are key players, in particular where we have workplaces with members and NO reps, so why attack them?

    There is no such thing as “lessen” the workload, that just increases what ever you do, in fact the more effect and efficient you are the more is put your way. I don't know where these bad officers are, but I do know where demotivated and overworked officers are, they are throughout the union.

    The union is in decline for several reasons, one being that the nature of work has changed from large traditional employers to smaller SME's. Look at the decline under Woodley's trade union life and he did not reverse it under his own term of office either. Albeit I accept that a number of recessions and globalisation which were out of his control have reduced employment in some of our traditional industries and had a knock on effect on our net membership.

    “People need managing” well there are a number of arguments around this subject. Firstly, if they are to be “managed” they need to be managed effectively. I would doubt if Woodley or any of the senior team have any professional management qualifications between them. Secondly, people need to be inspired, motivated and supported so that they manage themselves rather than putting in layers of supervision. That is not achieved through fear and intimation all we get is short termism until another GS election comes along and the new regime settles the grudges against the last one.

    Woodley needs to move on and let McCluskey develop, people have had enough of temper tantrums and slogan-isms. Its like nature, plants can find it difficult to grow in the shade of others. Finally, I share the same ideal as you that I want Unite to be the biggest and strongest Union in this country. But turning back to the post, we will not get there by de -recognising bargaining groups and attacking T&C's.

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  16. unite want to pratice what they preace to employers,,,they treat there own staff like shit, and bully them,,,corrupt tossers

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  17. The officers are now been run by the organising unit along the RCO and regional secretary
    Most off the organisers are very young and have little knowledge off industrial matter . I am aware in one region we have 10 organisers one senior organizer 4 RCO and one regional secretary it’s the classic 2 many chiefs and not enough Indians .The cost of this must be !/2 million a year all for a net return off what less that 2000 new members

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  18. fletcher wants this,,,if a unite employee has a problem at work who can represent him if he is employed and a member of unite except gmb,,,,unite are corrupt and will stich him up,,,,,unite want closed shops ,lol

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  19. ray fletcher will bring down unite the union all by himself,,,he is doing a good job now ,best thing unite could do is get rid now,before things he has done are in the media

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  20. cannot believe unite want to make its own union a closed shop for its staff

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  21. you carnt touch me i am part of the union,,,,,,,they can if they are unite and you are employed by them,,,

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  22. The too many chiefs argument is a good one. I know that I have been asked for information in support of organising campaigns only for it be “lost” in the system as there are too many links in the chain. You then get multiple requests for the same information and don't have the time to keep on producing it. What comes next is threats...”Tony is watching, Tony is monitoring, Head office have an eye on you”

    Turning to Fletcher, what's his background? Please don't tell us that he worked in the private sector sacking our members and that's where he got his experience from. That will be as bad as that awful woman Georgina H who once worked for the EEF doing exactly the same.

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  23. fletcher is a nobody just a consultant,who should have retired years ago he is bloody 68,,,he is behind this but it has backfired loads of unite members are cancelling and joining gmb,,lol,,,,those in power need the guts to tell fletcher he is a nobody with no power but i think even the general sec is scared to stand up to him,,,too much politics going on or maybe he has some scandal on them ,i am a officer for unite and am amazed

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  24. i agree ray fletcher is going to be the downfall of unite,,,they should put the tosser in his place,,he thinks he runs the union

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  25. mcCluskey has been on hol for 4 weeks so is not behind it ,its ray fletcher behind all this ,he thinks he is the bloody general sec,,,mcCluskey wants to step up to the plate and sack fletcher and sort out all the politics going on within unite,,i have been a officer for 27 years and could fill the papers with what i know that goes on,,its terrible how unite treat there staff

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  26. the union should do an investigation into what the fcuk is going on in ray fletchers head the daft old twat

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  27. Don’t be fooled again – Fletcher is only taking orders .

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  28. I agree with the comment above – To say Ray Fletcher is running the whole show without the knowledge of any of Unite’s Senior Officials is absolute nonsense. Wake up and smell the manure !!!!!

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  29. ray fletcher is trying to run the whole show ,he is like a wild dog that needs putting down,,,there is going to be a hugh scandal in the media soon regarding mr fletcher,,,watch this space

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  30. i have been a officer for the union for 9 years and am amazed they have not fired fletcher,he is a loose cannon

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  31. its like the police saying they dont want to recognise the courts

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  32. gmb will be busy with all the new members joining

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  33. Just taking orders is a perfect observation. This man must be making decisions in the knowledge that he can without being questioned, or, he is being instructed. But people like him just don't end up by accident in the role that he has got, who the hell appointed him? And shouldn't their judgement also be questioned?

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  34. Gone on holiday for four weeks so he is nothing to do with this...wake up! Fletcher's letter states that the GS blah blah blah...etc so he is acting on the GS's behalf. If it is proved that he isn't, then Fletcher should consider his own position.

    Even if McCluskey is off somewhere for four weeks fishing, reading books, or riding elephants, he should be able to rely on his other appointments like Turner etc or the other real GS Woodley, to keep a steady hand on the tiller.

    So in his absence what the hell are all of the others doing?

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  35. Had to delete 4 messages. Please don't libel people here. As a guide saying someone is a twat is fine but saying someone is corrupt or has taken illegal drugs, even if in jest, or even if true, is libel. If you make clear it is your personnal belief rather than a fact then that helps a bit but best avoid it.

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  36. the problem high up is no one wants to rock the boat as they know what happens if they do,,,,fletcher wanted this deal so all unite workers had nowhere to go if they had a grevience against there employer ,ie unite the union,,,they would not even have legal representation as they block you of that right,,,,a big case might be all over the press soon involving fletcher etc,,this is my personal belief also my belief that ray fletcher is a twat

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  37. it is in a full page interview with mc cluskey on the net where mc cluskey admitted to the interviwer that he took and smoked illegal drugs when he was younger,,how the hell does a person in that position not have to resign after admitting that,,,,lets vote the lot out ,and get roy cropper to lead the union,at least he could save the union a bit on catering charges

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  38. I must admit, this blog is fantastic, it allows suppressed people to express an opinion. But I did laugh at the advice i.e. please don't accuse people of being corrupt or taking illegal drugs but if you think they are a twat then that's ok...Great stuff. Beaumont you are a genius, albeit an argumentative one, but hey, aren’t we all being in a trade union. One day I hope to meet you in person, I may even have an argument when I do, but so what, all opinions matter.

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  39. unite want to be very carefull as loads of unite employees are now joining gmb as well to cover themselves,,,union employees top to bottom want to remember without union members money they have no job themselves ,and its there members subs that they are wasting on holidays and freebee doos and expences

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  40. fletcher has egg on his face as unite losing loads of there members who are going to gmb over this,,,it was and would never happen,,,will he finally leave at 68 years old and get a golden wheelchair off unite .

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  41. Firstly, sorry to all the Queen fans out there!

    Apparently, Fletcher was heard singing a Queen song in the bath the other day, the words went as follows:

    Is this Unite life?
    Is this just EC fantasy?
    Caught in a crapslide
    No escape from reality
    Open your eyes
    Look up to the skies and see
    I'm just a HR boy, I need a cup of tea
    Because I'm easy come, not easy go
    A little high, little low (NOTE: nothing to do with the McCluskey interview)
    Anyway the GS election goes, Unite staff don't really matter to me, to me

    Members, the crap has hit the fan
    Put a water gun against my head
    Pulled the trigger, and wet the bed
    Mama, a united Unite had just begun
    But now I've gone and thrown it all away
    Mama, ooo (if you have had a drink do some more ooo's as it makes you feel better)
    Didn't mean to make the GMB cry
    If I'm not back causing trouble this time tomorrow
    Carry on, carry on, as if staff industrial relations don't really matter

    Too late, my potential dismissal has come
    Sends shivers down my spine (yes, contrary to rumours, I do have one and a scan picture can be provided on request)
    Body's aching all the time (the bloody lift at Holborn is out of order)
    Goodbye Unite staff - I've got to go
    Gotta leave you all behind and face the boot
    Mama, ooo - (anyway the GS election vote goes)
    I don't want to lie
    But I sometimes wish I'd never been appointed at all

    I see a little silhouetto of a man, its Woodley
    Scarymouth, scarymouth will you do the T&G Tango
    Thunderbolt and lightning - Woodley's very frightening
    Galecartmail, Galecartmail,
    Galecartmail, Galecartmail,
    Galecartmail Can'tFigarout - She'snotmagnifico

    But I'm just a HR boy and no GMB members love me
    He's just a HR boy from a T&G family
    Spare him from us from this monstrosity
    Easy come not easy go - will you let me go, we hope so!
    VR Scheme! Yes let him go - let him go
    VR Scheme! Let him go - let him go
    VR Scheme! We want you to let him go - let him go
    Will not let you go - let me go (never)
    Never let you go - let me go
    Never let me go - ooo
    No, no, no, no, no, no, no –
    Oh mama mia, mama mia, mama mia let me go
    Beelzebub has the EC put aside a leaving package for me for me for me

    So you think you can stone me (For legal purposes and to keep Beaumont happy - this is not a reference to McCluskey's newspaper interview) and spit in my eye
    So you think you can appoint me and leave me to cry
    Oh Woodley - can't do this to me Woodley
    Just gotta get out of Holborn - just gotta get right outta here

    Ooh yeah, ooh yeah
    Nothing about our staff really matter
    Any GMB member can see
    Nothing really matters – no negotiation rights really matter to me

    Anyway the GS election goes...(roll on the next one, all together now)

    BONG!

    Copyright Pisstake Music.com

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  42. To return to the issue why the hell would a trade union not want its staff to be members not be members a union ?
    The election has proved there is not a left wing bone in the current GS far worse than Simpson Jackson Morris rotten to the core
    The so called united left group are no more than nodding dogs at the GS and Woodley beck and call We need a complete clear out of the shit that now run this union

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  43. fletcher has shown his true colours to everyone,,this is just the tip of the iceberg of what is going to be in the media soon,,watch this space

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  44. ray fletcher ,,,you are fired ,,please leave the board room

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  45. Agreed , Fletcher should go. But what about those giving the orders to him . Should they be free to continue as before ? I don’t think so !

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  46. fletcher is acting largely on his own say so,,like i have said nobody dare rock the boat in unite top to bottom because if they do they do not provide legal help to you as a union member and employee,,they just sail you down the river with no paddle,,seen it loads of times as a officer for unite,,and them we have to go and fight employers for treating there staff wrong,,its a joke

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  47. Mr Fletcher will not be acting alone he will directed by woodley, Murray and the GS The fedback form the officer group is clear that the GS is running the show and fully understands what is going on

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  48. “Fletcher is acting largely on his own..........” MY ARSE ! Do you think Unite employees are Fcuking stupid !

    Can you see McCluskey, Woodley and their whole scabby crew objecting to what Fletcher is attempting to do now – Well can you? NO!

    Woodley and McCluskey will only start to distance themselves from Fletcher when they finally realise they’re screwed. Until then they’ll keep quiet and let Fletcher take the shit . When the shit hits the fan, they’ll dismiss him and proclaim their total innocence.

    “Fletcher is acting largely on his own...” Whose payroll are you on?

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  49. i am a officer for unite and cannot believe ray fletcher has not been sacked yet ,alot of us working for unite think he has lost the plot

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  50. Very convenient for you to put all the blame on Fletcher . If he is out of control , as you seem to claim . Why doesn’t McCluskey / Woodley take action against him ! Why don’t they releasea statement condemning his actions, and sack him ........... I’ll leave you to ponder on that one!

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  51. maybe fletcher has something on them,,,there is going to be some interesting things in the media soon,,watch this space

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  52. Mcluskey , Turner and Woodley allow people like Fletcher to continue working away and when it all goes wqrong will plead ignorance. What a joke!

    The reality is they think they are the 3 wise men and we are all just going to quietly follow.

    I did not join the union to be part of a boys club

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  53. the union is like the mafia,,,the way it is going they will have no members soon,,there is some big things about the union going to be in the media soon

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  54. the club tropicana boys,,off to cuba on union members dues boys,,,hang your heads in shame you scum

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  55. lets get in put in the press how much some of the glory boys are spending of there members money on expences

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  56. mc ckuskey wants anarchy in the uk

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  57. I wonder how much these sun tan socialists do spend of the members money?

    David - do you have a breakdown on how much each champagne socialist claims on expenses?

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  58. when it is made public knowledge soon <unite will lose loads of members

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  59. The 100% campaigns will save us and we will be the largest Union still, Tony has got it right.

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  60. This comment page is not about the 100% campaign - it’s about Unites attempt to derecognise the GMB Union .

    However, regarding our “great saviour ” TONY. He didn’t get it right during his watch, so why should we expect him to get it right now? + If you think the 100% campaign alone is going to save this union – you’re living in a dream world.

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  61. the union is on its arse ,,,its sold most of its assets to keep going ,,all the fat cats are blowing all the members dues

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  62. This still is Tony's watch...isn't it ???

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  63. i wonder if union chiefs read this thread

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  64. ray fletcher thinks he is ,SPARTACUS ,lol

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  65. Regards the Comment :

    " This is still Tony’s Watch isn’t it" ?

    Errrr, no, It’s McCluskey’s – I think!

    Anyway, what exactly did Woodley achieve during his period as GS, and why is he now ( the unelected) Executive officer for the Organising department ?

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  66. the wham boys like to stick together ,they all wee in the same pot

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  67. £5-6k to buy out former Amicus Officers - excessive expenses claim culture. London officers not happy with £44k because they are in same band as researchers - and put in collective grievance - which Mr Fletcher is dealing with. Is it really so bad at the top and so good at the bottom? Sad they cant negotiate a German built £25k+ car than a UK union built car.
    If it is so bad dont just join GMB go and work for them!

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  68. Regards comment above:

    I think it’s sad that UNITE the Union are attempting to derecognise the GMB !

    Unfortunately, that “little” detail doesn’t seem to bother you. I wonder why?!

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  69. its 5k to buy the contract i have no isssue with this the toyota is the same price as a vectra i am a officer who nos damm well we are well payed i work 70hours plus most weeks but the case its about a union not allowing its staff to in a trade union i woould also point out we are now paid 2k extra for unsocial hours

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  70. feel sorry for the low paid members struggling to pay there union dues,to pay fat cat employees of the union

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  71. Reference last few comments. Attacking officers is on line with the top management team approach, it deflects from the real issue of de-recognising a sister union. The grievance is valid. No offence to the researchers who support the officers, but even they may recognise that they are not as accountable, have the same responsibility, or deliver the same service directly to members. The grievance does not attack them,good luck to them, but it questions how those that devised the scheme can arrive at the conclusion officers should be in the same band. The tosser who came up with “go and work” elsewhere sounds like most of the employers we have to deal with. i.e. if you don't like what we are doing f'ck off, or you greedy bast+rds in the public sector your pensions should be cut as you get too much. If you break down the hourly rate officers work then your would be surprised, lots burn out, and most are on second marriages because they were never at home, but for most officers its not the money they work for, if it was they would go elsewhere and earn more or not even be in union in the first place. But 5k is not enough, why? Because officer's are negotiators, and they love to tell all employers, and people who behave like an employer, to f+ck off...

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  72. I suggest the top management of the union read animal farm 2 legs amicus bad 4 legs TG good but remember the last chapter (sir ken missed it and look what happened to him) roll on the next GS election members will work it out

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  73. what a waste of members money balloting members on something that will neverhappen in the first place

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  74. We've now posted all the GMB letters see todays story "The GMB Letters"

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  75. The truth is that Unite and the organising unit is run on mafia lines. Nothing to do with workers rights, all to do with power. Bullying is rife and people in top jobs are useless. Join the GMB!

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  76. agree 100 percent,join the gmb now ,people at the top in unite are scum bullies,,worst still are the couple at the top who are honest who have not got the guts to stand up to them for fear of what will happen to them,,its like that top to bottom in unite,,the joke union run by don fatcat and his oap boy wonders

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  77. fletcher,you should of retired by now at 68,,leave now at beg forgivness of your members for your greed and deals ,an maybe we will not shame you in the media,hang your head in shame for all the freebees on low paid members sweat and blooded hands from hard work ,shame on you all who call yourselves a union when you sit by in power and see the wrongdooings

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  78. The Unite leadership in 2010 collaborated with Charlie Whelan and the Guardian to get the Bassa leadership to call off their action against BA to help Brown in the election. As part of the process the Guardian named a well known academic, very much associated with the labour movement, as a union buster. The accusation was totally untrue. Whelan and the Union employed Carter Ruck to make the case against them - conspiracy - too costly to progress.
    Unite part of the labour movement?

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  79. how the hell unite officers dare go into work places and tell bosses how they are doing this wrong and that wrong when unites bosses and solicitors treat there own staff like crap,bullying is rife in unite and a policy of shut up or put up,or you are bullied and threatened into leaving with a pay off and a gagging order,its time to have a claer out at the top or shut down the union,been a employee for 26 years and am discusted to see the cover ups and goings on

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  80. .... i been a unite employee for 26 year and still cant spell, terrible at grammar to.

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  81. Yes, Unite officers do go into workplaces and tell managers who are bullying others that the practice is not acceptable. Those same officers do recognise what is happening in Unite, the issue here is not the officers or rank and file, its the leadership. That's why McCluskey is having a national officers meeting as he thinks it will flush issues out. It will not, fear will prevent it from happening. It will also be interesting to see if the other acting General Secretary and known bully will be in the room. Finally, not everyone finds spelling and grammar easy, but you don't have to to see a bullying oligarchy at work.

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  82. 100 percent agree with above ,all unites employees keep there heads down because if you dont you are soon out of a job,,also what the hell has gramer and spelling got to do with anything,there are some tossers about

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  83. it will soon be time for the gs and his family and the fatcats partners in crime to have a nice holiday in cuba all expences paid on the back of hard working members subs again,wonder if pinder from ead gets a invite for his help in all the cover ups

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  84. Will a small number of former T&G sycophants ask a few leading questions? Will officers sit on their hands and keep quite? Will the consultant insist on answering questions, if there are any, whilst McCluskey sits in his shadow? Whatever happens, questions or no questions, the honeymoon period is now clearly over.

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  85. officers can not say anything if they want to keep there jobs,thats the way in unite

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  86. Oh come on, rejoice, its almost Christmas, all together now...

    On the twelfth day of Christmas,
    McCluskey made for me
    Twelve T&G GS candidates running,
    Eleven Woodley clones spying,
    Ten EC lords a-leaping,
    Nine rhetoric comments that need lancing,
    Eight Cuban trips a-milking,
    Seven Cartmails a-swimming,
    Six AGS's praying,
    Five T&C's with strings,
    Four calling RCO's,
    Three Oligarchy Lens,
    Two competing GS's,
    And a mark one T& bloody G

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  87. bravo,and queen song was superb,might send copy to don ray fletcher

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  88. Newsflash... Newsflash... Newsflash...

    McCluskey does Dave Allen impersonation but gets it wrong by preaching, and not knocking, religion

    Woodley locked away in cupboard to stop him attending meeting...key to cupboard is then stolen and 267 Unite officers arrested for questioning...

    Pin Up Gail Cartmail to feature on construction health and safety hazard poster...

    Problem with fuel cards discovered, like UFO's and caring Tory's, they don't exist...

    Turner discovers Thatcher and then tells seasoned officers in the room how to suck eggs...

    Direct email system to McCluskey to be established... as anonymous letters have not been invented yet..

    Director of legal services admits that not all solicitors are trade unionists, but there again, on the one hand some are and on the other hand some aren’t but if less than 50% aren’t we can't pursue the issue

    Merger with PCS to go ahead if Serwotka can stop arguing with himself...Union name will not change we will still be called mark 1 T&G

    Electronic communications to improve... Owen Granfield to be banned from sending thousands of emails saving 300000000 gig of system memory

    Head office to limit the sending out of emails, Fletcher will only be allowed to send out emails which include sensible statements, in other words, one a year stating “My name is Ray and I don't know what I'm doing”

    Donations to the Labour Party to now be based on value for money, the first £5000 in 2012 to be spent on a sinus operation for Ed so long as he signs an invisible compromise agreement and accepts he can't have a sabbatical

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  89. bravo ,,,hear hear,,,ray fletcher is a complete dick headed corrupt twat,,,these are my beliefs and not those of dear unite website,,,he he

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  90. ray fletcher arrived at work the other day with y fronts on his head,,mind you he is a big dick head

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  91. Article in the Liverpool Echo
    Reporter Len Dodd

    Man found living in Toyota Avensis faces eviction

    A man found living in a Toyota Avensis on the M1 has been told that he faces eviction. The man was interviewed today and he stated “this isn't fair, I only asked a question about expenses”

    A spokesperson for the Merseyside Cosa Nostra said “ fuel cards, blackberry's, online expense forms in place of quill and ink, what century does he think we are in, the 21st?”

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  92. Article in the Liverpool Echo
    Reporter Len Dodd

    Treasure Hunter finds valuable hoard

    A treasure hunter discovered a valuable find on the Wirral today. His metal detector found a gold coin buried in a pot. However, it was wrapped up in a piece of paper which turned out to be more valuable. It was a Unite Compromise Agreement with the words T&Cs - £5000.

    The man who did not wished to be named said “ these agreements are like rocking horse shit, Sotherbys have advised that there may only be two others in existence, one has the name Woodley on it but it has a larger unknown amount of money which the certification officer is yet to disclose”

    Mr Archibald Makeitup, a specialist in compromise agreements confirmed that the agreement was a rare find. “There are rumours that others exist but you just don't find these agreements any more, one came up for auction recently with the name Simpson on it and that went for nearly £500k”

    The exact location of the find is being kept a secret to stop former Amicus officers digging up the whole site.

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  93. mc cluskey and ray fletcher had new matching tattoos at weekend,,,the needs of us outweigh the needs of the many,on the left arm of course,the rest of the high up secret handshake wham boys think they are delicious

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  94. Liverpool Echo
    Reporter Len Dodd

    Swan found flying in a circle

    A Swan was found flying in a circle today on Walton Hall Park lake because one of its wings had been completely removed.

    An RSPB representative said she had reported it to the police because she believed that as the Unite Blackberry contract was not being renewed, officers would have to adopt a former T&G section system of communication, I.e. sharpened feather quills, and she believed that could be the reason.

    The Police confirmed that they had contacted a Unite spokesperson in Holborn and he had said “please be quick as this plastic cup is making my ear sweat and it would be helpful if you could put more tension on the string ”

    Enquiries are ongoing, but it is thought that Unite is to blame as they had completely refused to accept any quills from the “Right Wing”

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  95. ray fletcher bow out now you sad old git and take the rest of the bad apples with you,you are not wanted and at 68 its time to give a younger person a go,you are losing unite loads of members to gmb

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  96. any unite employees with any sense will join gmb ,,because if they have any problems with there employer ie unite the union that is there only chance of representation ,,,unite bully and shaft there own employees ,,,FACT

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  97. ray fletcher behind most of the trouble in unite

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  98. hear that learnning officers are being targetted for the fletcher chop?

    is this because they are former amicus?

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  99. Many I hear have an average of 10 years service in both ex T&G and Amicus. Fletcher in his arrogance has totally ignored all proceedures and contractual observation. Has he acted alone? Are the EC aware of this dispicable behaviour? ask the questions.

    I feel potentially an IT on the horizon. Some newspaper would interested in this story about how hypercritical this union is and how it treats its employees

    I was told 50 plus learning officers are to be dismissed at the end of March and offered new contracts on worse conditions and on a self employed basis.

    Would this be allowed to happen in companies we have members?

    If this is true who's going to March for them?

    This is a joke

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  100. there is a et coming up regarding member of staff,and mc cluskey and fletcher will be on the stand and in court for 5 days minimum with all the media possible to show up the union for how it treats its own employees and does not follow its own procedures towards its own staff,fletcher has some delicate questions to answer

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  101. Ok. Can you let us know the date and venue for the ET? Also it would be great if someone could give us an update over the five days of the ET. Well done DearUnite.com for exposing this.

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  102. the date and venue will be published on here soon,,i am going to tell dear unite first then all the media who will be all over the et ,cannot wait to see fletcher on the stand ,he is one corrupt nasty scum,,,,these are my beliefs and not the beliefs of dear unite

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  103. They may be your beliefs and not DearUnite's but on the balance of probability I bet you, DearUnite and most of us in Unite all think the same about him! Without saying too much, is the same ET claim about a breach of contract...if not, there must be at least two ET claims in, and there could be more going on, we just don't know about them all. Lets start listing them to keep everyone updated.

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  104. the et claim is not about breach of contract ,,its more juicy than that,will tell dear unite as soon as i can .

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  105. on Senior employees in UNITE with history try Googling Howard Roberts Beckett!

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  106. What happened to all the other debates ?

    Is this site self pruning ?

    Neebee

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  107. You are writing but not reading. You have posted 4 more posts since I posted the note below so I just took the whole article down. I still have the article and can re-instate it.

    "I have to tell you nobody is reading these comments any more except me and you, and me only because I run the site. Because commentators on this story are now so rare, although you are anonymous I now know which town you live in from my stats and the time of the comment. Why don't you have a rest and just send me all you have and I'll write it up. "

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  108. David the last post about the RS in NEYH you may want to have a close look at also would expect the there is a outstanding ET in the region which is about harassment of a very serious nature in that the members off staff has been refused legal assistance from the union the other person involved was a key member in the region off len election team i will email you more when i have set up a email account which protect me

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  109. comrades,i dont think it fair to comment on ongoing et cases that are ongoing,it could effect the legal case

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  110. merry xmas dear unite, thanks for this excellent site

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  111. Not sure who reads this blog but for those that do Unite have backed down - GMB reps are still recognised

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  112. Unite are a waste of time and money. It's like being given medicine in a bottle with no means of an opening.

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  113. Big unions created through many takeovers of smaller ones tend to loose political direction, the members tend to loose their identity. Craft pride or industry identification goes out of the window as sections are merged. Regional Organisers are dealing with industries where they have no experience at all. In the name of equality female Organisers are given responsibilities in traditional male dominated workplaces/industries where they stand no chance of giving the leadership required. Bureaucracy grows, democracy declines, jobs for the boys develops and nepotism flourishes. I am talking about GMB which is a prime example of the above.

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  114. Well now we all have our chance to show Mr McCluskey what we think of Policies like this. Remember the AEEU and the way it was ruled with an iron fist? Time now to agitate and activate the members and get us a new General Secretary. Jerry Hicks will do the job for members and he speaks as a man that can truly say he is one of us. He was sacked for defending members and blacklisted to this day.
    Have a read, this article is a great comparison between the two candidates.

    http://www.iansunitesite.org.uk/2013/01/why-im-backing-jerry-hicks-in-unite.html
    Jerry Hicks campaign site can be found on Facebook.

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