tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7840982724694912248.post9154525165797146835..comments2023-06-09T11:01:32.111+01:00Comments on dearunite.com: The Empire Strikes Backdbdbhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15602110058392281517noreply@blogger.comBlogger21125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7840982724694912248.post-52279479120947134232011-04-30T19:54:40.280+01:002011-04-30T19:54:40.280+01:00AEEU recruit are you sure its not GPMU recruit?AEEU recruit are you sure its not GPMU recruit?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7840982724694912248.post-78231243394587385462011-04-20T23:52:36.437+01:002011-04-20T23:52:36.437+01:00If you want to read about what life is really like...If you want to read about what life is really like as a Unite employee, read my blog at unitefto.wordpress.comAEEU recruitnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7840982724694912248.post-23410674637215025442011-04-19T08:43:21.540+01:002011-04-19T08:43:21.540+01:00The interesting thing about this rule is that it d...The interesting thing about this rule is that it doesn't prevent a taxi driver being the chair of the London & Eastern Regional Committee. I can't think of anyone more self-employed than a taxi driver, but for some reason they are exempt from this rule because they are 'organised' (i.e. they have time to do as much activity as they want because they control their work). Or is it because they all used to work on the buses and support the T&G left bureaucracy?AEEU Recruitnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7840982724694912248.post-66648122942567755582011-03-28T11:12:22.836+01:002011-03-28T11:12:22.836+01:00I see that the petty bourgeoisie are upset about n...I see that the petty bourgeoisie are upset about not being able to stand as "representatives" of workers. "Anon" is right: the self-employed cannot, and should not, represent workers. Some leeway is already allowed under rule for the temporarily unemployed. That's as it should be.Jim Denhamhttp://shirazsocialist.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7840982724694912248.post-29069326795113321112011-03-16T15:02:44.971+00:002011-03-16T15:02:44.971+00:00general secretaries are scum worse than the fat ca...general secretaries are scum worse than the fat cats and greedy bankers ,you no why because they dont kidd on they represent youscottynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7840982724694912248.post-86519312180159906082011-03-12T00:23:04.781+00:002011-03-12T00:23:04.781+00:00I think that this emphasis on the validity on the ...I think that this emphasis on the validity on the interpretation rule<br />6.3 misses the point. Surely the real issue is that the EC should represent ALL sections of the membership. The membership includes the self-employed, the unemployed, including those facing repossession and the retired. How is it that those who receive maybe up to £3(or 4000) per week pay and perks can properly identify with those members who find it an increasing nightmare to pay basic household bills. The EC must be a forum for ALL sections of the membership not just for those who the "leadership" decides is worthy of representation.<br /><br />I wonder if the author of the posts under the name of "anonymous" maybe a one of those or a representative of those who are in receipt of a maybe up to £3(or 4000) per week pay and perks. Come on "anonymous" who are you.Raynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7840982724694912248.post-88675434299805541362011-02-17T16:02:43.300+00:002011-02-17T16:02:43.300+00:00I think all the GRL candidates have received enoug...I think all the GRL candidates have received enough nominations even those who have been banned (currently three!). However the union are only telling the candidates themselves and only if specifically asked by the candidate so am not certain yet.david@dearunite.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7840982724694912248.post-47930216646974525072011-02-17T10:57:21.201+00:002011-02-17T10:57:21.201+00:00What sort of question is that when you know nomina...What sort of question is that when you know nominations have closed? The Grass roots list is not as long, but at least Dave has followed his principles, unlike some who opposed McCluskey/UL and have now seen the light and jumped on the UL ticket.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7840982724694912248.post-66710187485129882022011-02-17T00:43:45.849+00:002011-02-17T00:43:45.849+00:00Dave. How are the Grassroots Left nominations goin...Dave. How are the Grassroots Left nominations going?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7840982724694912248.post-36010079678135471172011-02-16T09:00:05.004+00:002011-02-16T09:00:05.004+00:00A couple of self serving members who represent no ...A couple of self serving members who represent no one quite rightly fall fail of being able to stand for the EC because they do not represent workers day in day out in a workplace.<br /><br />Professional self selected politicos jumping up and down and shouting its a len club, no its a Tony club and threats to run off to the courts no doubt using the tory anti trade union laws.<br /><br />Thankfully we have rules about who can stand which protects proper workers who are elected by their peers in their workplace to take on their bosses from being pushed aside by parasitical enterists who want to become committee jockeys and lord it over real workers.Double Standardsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7840982724694912248.post-75136562176085006702011-02-15T22:25:36.393+00:002011-02-15T22:25:36.393+00:00You need to look at the facts my friend, eg the la...You need to look at the facts my friend, eg the last TGWU exec election, 2008. "<a href="http://www.btinternet.com/~davidbeaumont/msf/index.html#firstresults" rel="nofollow">The TGWU section election was over before it began, with most of General Secretary Woodley's supporters club taking office unopposed and without a vote (winning 25 seats unopposed and 14 out of the 15 contested ones, giving them 39 out of 40 seats!)</a>".Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7840982724694912248.post-50362281926540735392011-02-15T22:12:38.211+00:002011-02-15T22:12:38.211+00:00"the exec is len".
Clearly your underst..."the exec is len".<br /><br />Clearly your understanding of the union is a million miles to what most active members think.<br /><br />Good luck<br /><br />"Candidates personally selected by the GS supporters club"<br /><br />It gets worse.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7840982724694912248.post-12222135403090840562011-02-15T12:13:58.909+00:002011-02-15T12:13:58.909+00:00"The Executive Council decided that you were ..."The Executive Council decided that you were not eligible to stand for election at its meeting on 29 to 31 January 2011. The minutes of its meeting are not yet available.<br />Your e-mail 1 February 2011 has been dealt with by the Returning Officer in accordance with rule 16.<br />Yours sincerely<br />Len McCluskey<br />Returning Officer"<br /><br />The Exec is Len. Candidates personally selected by the GS supporters club. Thats what we want to change.david@dearunite.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7840982724694912248.post-31962845017312200562011-02-13T08:53:38.464+00:002011-02-13T08:53:38.464+00:00"The Executive Council decided that you were ..."The Executive Council decided that you were not eligible to stand for election at its meeting on 29 to 31 January 2011. The minutes of its meeting are not yet available."<br /><br />How is it worked out that Len is personally responsible? Surely the executive decided?<br />Where is the rest of the letter?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7840982724694912248.post-37163136337434013332011-02-12T05:54:15.443+00:002011-02-12T05:54:15.443+00:00well lets hope that at this years rules conference...well lets hope that at this years rules conference there are successful motions to address the above?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7840982724694912248.post-88465697540679385952011-02-11T22:58:48.478+00:002011-02-11T22:58:48.478+00:00Ok but I am an elected representative of workers -...Ok but I am an elected representative of workers - I am elected branch sec of my branch which is an open branch. I do assist members of our branch in their workplace issues. Ray is also an elected branch sec.david@dearunite.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7840982724694912248.post-7045662938766872982011-02-11T21:53:44.378+00:002011-02-11T21:53:44.378+00:00There should be allowances for the victimised, all...There should be allowances for the victimised, allowances for the unemployed in rule but not exceptions for the self employed. The self employed are as they are described, self employed. They have no collective interest in opposing an employer. Their 'employers' are customers.<br /><br />I used to be self employed myself for about 7 years and I could never see myself as representing anyone ECONOMICALLY like a genuine workplace rep in an organised workplace. While I accept that I could collectively organise with other self employed business people I accepted that I was always in competition with the same fellow self employed business people.<br /><br />Maybe we should have a self employed Trade Group in Unite. That would then be justified as per rule. But until then I would not want a self employed member representing me.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7840982724694912248.post-63551036926439967452011-02-11T20:18:18.607+00:002011-02-11T20:18:18.607+00:00I believe that we must not disenfrancise our unemp...I believe that we must not disenfrancise our unemployed, self employed or victimised activists by using the unjust and discredited rule 6.<br /><br />If they are good enough to stand up and represent our members when in paid employment - we should not then knee them in the bol**ks and discard them when they have been thrown out of work. They have the activism and experience that should be utilised for the betterment of our members and union.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7840982724694912248.post-3657358331211142552011-02-11T11:56:23.262+00:002011-02-11T11:56:23.262+00:00We need to stand against such unreasonable and irr...We need to stand against such unreasonable and irrational decision. As the EC as well as McCluskey position is in serious question,do you think any sort of legal challenge like judicial review with interim injunction on NEC Election. I believe you have strong ground for Judicial review.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7840982724694912248.post-87704915540765424542011-02-10T22:57:03.409+00:002011-02-10T22:57:03.409+00:00Also something does not feel right about an EC, wh...Also something does not feel right about an EC, which whilst seeking re-election, can make decisions that disadvantage others who by virtue of the fact are seeking election themselves...The WatcherAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7840982724694912248.post-68994392645658937292011-02-10T15:31:32.553+00:002011-02-10T15:31:32.553+00:00It has taken McCluskey a matter of weeks to turn o...It has taken McCluskey a matter of weeks to turn on the activists as we knew he would, this despite assurances given to me personally by his chief of staff Andrew Murray, this assurance was given when we spoke on the phone last friday. Many of us work outside the normal Employer, Employee relationship because we have been victimised for our trade union activities, the Union should want these voices heard not stifled, it is dispicable that this Union seeks to prevent good people from even standing for the E C, McCluskey is just carrying on in the fine traditions of Sir Ken Jackson who was the first to start this horrible idea that if you were not working then your voice did not count.<br />Len for gods sake grow up and start remembering some of the valuable lessons that you say you learned in th early 1980's.<br />One final thing Len, what makes this matter worse is when it is your own trade union that put you in that position in the first place.Jimmy Warnenoreply@blogger.com